there's a frisbee golf course near grandpa's house. we usually play a few rounds when we go visit. course i should say flying disc course. cause frisbee is a wham-o trademark. wee. anywho, this was the first time i tried out the driver discs. they're smaller, heavier, and have a sharper leading edge than your classic frisbee shape. they fly like crap when thrown backhand. which was frustrating. so i got mad once and flicked one forehand. and the damn thing took off like a homesick angel. and came down some 70 meters away. which was twice as far as anyone else was throwing the things. huh. okay then. pretty soon everyone was trying the drivers. frisbee physics is kinda cool. the thing naturally wants to rotate to the right. so the trick is to chuck it nearly flat so that a little bit of right turn, ie left side rises, makes the thing fly more/less flat for most of its flight. which ends when the thing stalls. and falls hard to the right. which means you can make amazing hook shots around stands of giant pine trees. course score wise i wasn't doing any better than anyone else. cause i couldn't "putt" worth a damn. ah well. was fun.